of people say purple. but if you look at the makeup of the general assembly and what's going on in local -- >> still easier to be a local republican, you think, and get elected than being a local democrat? >> well, of course, it depends on the state. i mean, if you're in northern virginia, it's hard to find a republican. if you get down where i live, it's hard to find a democrat with a search warrant. it's the tale of two states, as you're aware, chuck. >> but it's also culture. and i want to say something, a man you're close friends with, jim webb, in an exit interview i did with him, we talked about the specific issue that he thinks president obama is having. and if he weren't having it, this election would be over. here's what he told me. >> i will tell you, i said that directly to the president about two weeks ago. you know, how in the name of the lord can the democratic party, the party of andrew jackson, only be getting 28% of the white male working-class vote? >> what do you say to this? is this all culture? >> from my perspective, it's that because of the interest group politics
